Hugh Smith

My tour of dad’s childhood area Part 1

My tour of dad’s childhood area Part 1

Link to slide show of photos and maps of the tour

Day for Touring

I took a day off from researching to tour the area and see the places that were mentioned in my dad’s life in Tennessee. The area I drove that day was mountains with rolling, twisting roads and trees everywhere. It was wonderfully green. If I could tune at the poverty it was an incredibly beautiful area. The poverty, however, was rampant and very sad to me.

One thing I will say is that at every stop I made there was nothing but the sound of bird song. It was striking how quiet the places were and how many birds were singing.

The first stop was in Huntsville, the county seat of Scott county, to visit the Scott County Historical Society to see if they had information that might help me. Unfortunately they had a change in people running the group and had to close for a few months to get a handle on their inventory. While there I did see a lot of court record books so it might be worth a trip back in the fall when they are open for research again.

From Huntsville I headed north to Oneida since that was dad’s birthplace. Huntsville had been a long narrow town between the mountain ridges. Oneida was farther from mountains, much larger, and not a very pretty town. It may have been where dad was born, but not worth a visit in my opinion.

Lick Fork Rd.

There was no way to cut across from Oneida to Elk Valley so I returned the way I had come until I could take 297 north from Route 63. 297 is a beautiful winding road through the trees and I easily found Lick Fork Rd. running off to the west which was the address on the 1940 census.

I went past the address at 319 quite a distance until it turned into single track gravel road that I thought I had all to myself until I stopped to take pictures and had a lumber truck come barreling my way. I was barely able to get over enough to allow the truck by and decided I’d better get back to the somewhat wider pavement before another truck came along.

Trulene had helped me find that Clay and John Smith were buried at Valley View Cemetery across from Elk Fork Baptist Church. On the way back on Lick Fork I saw a church on the right and a cemetery on the left. It was a very small cemetery and no sign of their grave markers but I took a few pictures anyway just in case.

On the way back to the car an old man I had seen standing in front of a shack behind the church started yelling at me “What are you doing? Do you have permission to take pictures?” so I walked back toward him explaining that my dad had grown up in the area.

Once he decided I wasn’t a threat he ended up telling me how he came to own his house – that his father-in-law to be stepped off an acre of land and gave it to him before he married. He wanted me to come into the house to talk to “Mother” since she might know where the graves I was looking for were located.

I looked at this man with no teeth and the house that was a large shack and wasn’t sure I wanted to go in there. I wasn’t afraid of him — he turned out to be very nice. I was afraid of what I would encounter in the house. But I didn’t wish to offend so I followed him into the house.

We entered the kitchen where “Mother” was standing at the sink. Almost every flat surface was piled with junk, but what got me was the smell. I had to make a conscious effort not to gag while I talked to them.

They were both so nice to me. They explained that they had feared I was a “tree hugger” – the group of people opposed to the strip mining and clear cutting that was resulting in the top of the Zeb mountain being removed. They admitted the mining and logging had ruined the creek downstream, but there still wasn’t any call for those people to protest and block the road.

I didn’t tell them that I was indeed a “tree hugger” but instead that I was just interested in finding out information about my dad. “Mother” figured out I was at the wrong church. They lived by Elk Lick  Baptist Church and I needed to find Elk Fork Baptist Church so she told me how to get there. I had completely missed the distinction.

She asked what my dad’s name was and despite my protests she tried calling a couple people to see if they remembered him and was frustrated when their phones lines were busy. It was clear I could have stayed there all day because they were having a great time telling me stories, but I gradually extricated myself so I could continue my tour — and escape the smell.

I drove back to where 319 Lick Fork Rd. was on my GPS.

New birth certificate search?

Social Security Application Request

I hadn’t been very optimistic when I paid my $27 and sent off a request to the Social Security Administration for a copy of dad’s application for a social security card that had been completed in 1939. Dad was living and working with John Smith at that point and I realized John may have been listed as the father, but I was at a loss for better ideas.

Social Security Application for Hugh Smith

Six weeks later I got the application with the sections for the each parent’s name blanked out and a letter of explanation about the privacy of information act and that I would have to provide some kind of proof of death for each parent before they could release the information.

I filed an appeal explaining that I didn’t know the name of the father — that’s why I wanted to see the application. That Jane was born in 1902 and would be 110 now so she had to be dead so the father also had to be dead. My father and his two half brothers were all dead. No one’s privacy would be violated.

Six weeks later I received notification that my appeal had been rejected so I was back to needing proof of death for a man whose identity I didn’t know.

Tennessee Birth Certificate Search

Tennessee will check birth certificates for a fee and I had sent a request to search for Hugh Smith born September 23, 1920 in Campbell County. Now I wonder if I should try again for Hugh Honeycutt born in Scott County.

I emailed Trulene and she feels 1) if he was illegitimate they probably did not get a birth certificate (that was common practice in the 1920’s) and 2) my best chance of finding out dad’s birth father would be from a female member of the Honeycutt family since they usually know the family secrets. She’s going to do some checking for me.

 

More on the Honeycutt family

More on the Honeycutt family

I found a book title The Families of Scott County, Tennessee and was surprised to find more information about Eliza Jane’s family complete with a picture. Eliza Jane is on the far left in the photo. James Michael Honeycutt is in the third paragraph from the bottom.

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Jane Honeycutt and her family

Jane Honeycutt and her family

After wasting twelve weeks and ending up with a rejection letter from the Social Security Administration about revealing the parents listed on dad’s application back in 1939 I went back to trying to track down what had happened to Jane (his mother) online.

On a whim I started working on some searches outside of ancestry.com for Jane Honeycutt and stumbled across a website at http://webpages.charter.net/wepollard/d2145.html that had genealogy for the Honeycutt family and listed Jane’s birth family along with some pictures.

Jane Honeycutt's family.

 

The picture below shows Ida Belle and her children.

Back Row left to right : Hiram & George. Front Row: Jane, Ida Belle (Holding Jonah), Elvin, and Mary Ann. Ida Belle looks forbidding, the boys in the back row look a little scary, and Jane looks a little bit like me. The picture looks to be circa 1910.

Ida Belle Honeycutt and children circa 1910.

Honeycutt children: Hiram and George in back, Liza Jane, John (little boy), Mary Ann holding Daisy, and Floria. Picture makes me wonder whose child Daisy since Mary Ann was holding her. If this was taken around 1920 that was the year Jane gave birth to my dad.

Children of James and Ida Belle Honeycutt.

 

James and Ida Belle Honeycutt. Ida Bell still looks scary.

James and Ida Honeycutt.

I have to admit it was kind of a weird feeling to see pictures for the first time of people I am related to but never met while they were living.  The entire family is dead now. Even Clay’s wife, who I hoped would have some information, was in a psychiatric ward in La Follette because her Alzheimer’s was so progressed. I spoke to her guardian and he said she had deteriorated rapidly after Clay died and no longer remembered anyone.

Since I waited so long to do this search the chances there are people still living who knew anything about dad are slim, so anything I find out will most likely come from records. But maybe that’s what dad would have wanted — no chance I would come in contact with the people he regarded as only capable of inflicting pain.

 

Information learned in Tennessee Part 2 – the Smiths

Information learned in Tennessee Part 2 – the Smiths

Trip to Tennessee

I decided I would have to go to Tennessee if I wanted to find out anything more, so I went there last week where I spent a lot of time at the Campbell County Historical Society. With the help of Trulene Nash, a volunteer at the society, we found more information than I ever could have hoped for.

*Note on ancestry.com searches – I should note that the majority of information I got in Tennessee was on ancestry.com, which I could have accessed from home. Apparently I needed the search skills of someone more experienced and Trulene is a former employee of the FBI. Once again I was bit in the butt by my tendency to be too literal. Her searches were more ballpark than precise and that’s what netted all the information. Don’t be too specific (or literal) when searching ancestry.com. There are tons of typos and flat out inaccuracies so you need to broaden your perspective.

Considering I more or less went to Tennessee expecting to come home knowing no more than I did when I left, it ended up being a very worthwhile trip. But to be honest, just seeing where dad lived would have made the trip worth the time and money so I was really thrilled with what I learned.

1940 Census

So let’s start with that 1940 census where they lived at 319 Lick Fork Rd. in Elk Valley. I was shocked to learn there was an adult male in the household since my dad had never once in his life mentioned one, but had said there were two half brothers. Here’s the census information:

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Marriage Certificate

Trulene found the marriage certificate for John and Jane on ancestry.com where I had totally failed. I was looking for Jane and John. She was looking for variations on the name and found JF and Janie.

I had learned that Clay’s father was John F. Smith when I saw the social security numbers for dad and Clay were one number apart. I got curious who had the number in between so I found a way to look it up and discovered it was John F. Smith. I never thought to look for JF.

Since John was born in 1889 and Janie in 1902 that meant she was 23 and he was 34 years old so there was a 13 year difference in age. My dad was 3 years old when his mother married John.

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1930 Census

Once again I have to credit Trulene with this find. I was busy searching Tennessee where she broadened her search and found them in Virginia.

I was once again shocked to see they not only lived in Virginia (which dad had never mentioned) but they stated on the census that 5 year old John Jr. (Clay) and 3 year old David had been born in Virginia. The change in the names of the children was also surprising, but I was learning the quality of information gathering by census takers was less than optimal at times. I also think people changed what they told the census takers. John (the head-of-household) was 52 in the 1940 Census and 36 in this one. I knew from his social security number that his birth year was 1989, so I wondered why about the inaccuracy of his age in 1930. Could the age difference been an issue or had the census taker made a mistake.

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All this left me with a dilemma. Dad was born September 23, 1920. John Smith and Janie Honeycutt married December 28, 1923 so John Smith was not his father and I had no idea how to find who the biological father was. With the help of Trulene I kept looking.

Information learned in Tennessee Part 1 – ♦Intro and Warning♦

Information learned in Tennessee Part 1 – ♦Intro and Warning♦

I have always wanted to know more about my dad. One of the big things I had always been curious about was where his clearly part Cherokee looks came from and what the original name of the family had been. If I can discover any of this information I would like it to live on after I’m no longer around to talk about it so I will be posting my discoveries here.

Warning to family members

I need to warn family readers that I found some information related to a story my mom had shared with me that is potentially upsetting. I only knew to look because of what mom told me. If ignorance is bliss do not read Part 4. The other sections don’t contain anything that should ruffle anyone’s feathers.

Ancestry.com

I started with internet research until I hit a wall and couldn’t figure out anything more.

I have a love/hate relationship with ancestry.com. I love the information you can glean from the site but find their monthly fees completely outrageous. I got a 14 day trial membership and beat the website to death for two weeks and didn’t store anything there.

1940 Census released April 3, 2012

The census provided the big kick in the right direction when I finally found dad after checking about 200 pages in Campbell County Tennessee. I about jumped up and down with joy since I was beginning to think it was hopeless that I would ever find him.

I have the .tiff scans of the original pages from ancestry.com as well as the images from the 1940 Census. The census pages are very large and you need a high resolution image to be able to read all the little print and hand-writing. The images are 14 to 18 MB — if anyone is interested in seeing them I would be happy to copy them to disk and send them in the mail. I can also put them on cubby.com so they can be downloaded.

The beginning of discoveries

With the information from the census I found an obituary for one of dad’s half brothers Clay Smith. The surprise on this find was that dad’s half brother had lived in Toledo and worked at Champion Spark Plug yet I’d never heard a word about him.  The obituary referenced both parents and both brothers as preceding him in death so Clay was aware that dad had died.

The obituary also gave me the names of both parents. Do you believe it? John and Jane Smith. That should make the search easier (*sarcasm*). I started searching for the marriage of the parents with no success and wondered if they were common law and not legally married.

It looked like Clay’s wife might still be alive and I wondered if she would talk to me and if she knew anything about her husband’s childhood. She was his second wife that he had married in Toledo so it was hard telling how much he might have talked about things that far in the past.

Trip Scheduled

At this point I felt I was stuck and needed to be on the ground in Tennessee to learn any more so I scheduled a trip there from April 30 to May 5.